That's Life

Lois Richter’s format for That’s Life is mostly interviews. Recurring topics include Davis activities and groups; work and life choices; philosophy and theory; plus birding, cooking, art, and other passions. Lois occasionally breaks into music — from ballads to the slack key sounds of Hawaii to golden oldies rock 'n' roll — but mostly there is just talk.

To suggest a topic for discussion or a person to interview, text Lois or leave a message in the comments here.

Lois seldom (but occasionally) updates her other website. Check it out at 

Live Thursday 11am-12pm
Music programs are only online for two weeks after they are broadcast.

That's Life with Mitch Hill

The Radio Guy. The Video Guy. The Voice-over Guy. 

They are all the same guy -- Mitchell Hill.  And, I'll add, a Good Guy to have as a friend!  (Also a guy to ask to be a Guest Host on the next show.  He said YES!)

Mitch is a main-stay on the Office Hours panel; sometimes being the "Reader" -- the person who reads each question for the show.  And I guess that makes sense because Mitch has a very good, well-trained voice and knows how to use it.  Today's show is most a 'getting to know Mitch' show.  With lots of voices thrown in. Or thrown around. Or just thrown.

Expect to be ...

Well, just expect the unexpected.  

That's Life with Ray Franklin

Long-time media man Ray Franklin has retired. 

Well, sort of.  What he actually did was create a new career teaching company execs how to be more effective in their in-person presentations and on-line meetings.  And, yes, he wrote a book about it.  

We first met on Office Hours and After Hours.  Ray has also come to many of the rehearsals for "Birding With Lois" since we started practicing in February.  In the course of being a stand-in for not-yet-acquired panelists,  Ray got to pose questions and get answers.  Then he started upgrading his systems for birding in his back yard -- new birdfeeder, new understanding of some of his feathered neighbors, and a new interest in the life around their Florida lake-side home.

Lots of rambling stories in this episode.  Lots of laughter also.  Hope you enjoy!

That's Life with Don Saylor


Todays conversation is with Don Saylor who, in addition to all his years of serving the public, hosts a delicious fundraiser each year for a community non-profit organization.  2022's beneficiary is Davis Media Access (DMA).  This is the last year Don will host "Soup's On" because he is retiring this year.  Today was my chance to ask about Don's history, his present, and his future plans.  

Information about 2022's "Soup's On" is available at


That's Life Improvement

Lois, Leanne, and Mary discuss a set of suggestions for improving your life gleaned from a book that Lois read.  That book -- "A Girl's Guide to Moving On" -- included a set of rules for people who were recovering from traumatic relationships.  We used these statements as a jumping off point to talk about our own life experiences, sharing with each other and with the listeners the ways WE have improved OUR lives.  I hope you enjoy the show and perhaps even use it as a starting point for your own discussions with freinds or partners.

That's Life for John Puett

Another fascinating story from a friend on After Hours.  A self-proclaimed "dungeon master", John Puett leads a very active adventurous life while sitting down.  "Dungeons and Dragons" is his game of choice and he not only plays D&D, but also designs, hosts, and teaches it.  Join  his Discord server or view his YouTube channel to learn more about the game.

John does a lot more than play, though.   He has a company that does "cyber security".  Not sure what that means?  Lois wasn't either, so listen to this episode to find out more.  We touch on many other things and, again, we had more than an hour's worth of conversation.   John is a photographer and is also very active in the Office Hours / After hours community.

A good talk today!


That's Life with Kim Stanley Robinson

Renowned science fiction author Kim Stanley Robinson is an opinionated person.  And a thoughful one.  And a great researcher.  But mostly he is a very fine writer.  Of the many many books he has written and published since the 1980s, my favorite is "The Years of Rice and Salt", set in an alternate world where the Plague killed 90% of people in northern Europe leaving empty land to be resettled by people from further south and east.  This book is a series of about a dozen novellas tied together by a cast of characters who get reincarnated in different parts of the world amid different  circumstances and cultures.  A most fascinating book!

But then, I also was mesmerized by his possibilities of Orange County's future in the Three Californias trilogy: "The Wild Shore", "The Gold Coast", and "Pacific Edge".  What will happen in OC if (a) we start to recover from a nuclear war while the rest of the world decides that we are too dangerous to allow to re-build? or (b) we stop global warming but continue overpopulation in "an endless sprawl of condos, freeways, and malls"? or (c) we change our culture to a more ecologically-focused future and live in smaller places? These three award-winning books are also filled with fascinating characters.

That's Life with Tom Ferguson

Another very interesting fellow that I met on After Hours is Tom Ferguson.  He is retired from working for the city of Phoenix as a system creator, studio maker, and IT wizard.  (Well, that's not the word HE used, but to me it seems like wizardry!)

The Ferguson family moved to Arizona when he was 10, and he has never found reason to leave.  This is a fascinating interview sparked with bits of tech info and CUTE CATS!  

Cats?  Why cats?  Well, it turns out that Tom has been a photographer for a long time and one of his favorite subjects are his cats.  (That's them in the picture.)  




That's Life as a Creativity Coach

Nikki H is a "Creativity Coach" and her eddress tells it all --  --  Her delight is helping others find THEIR delight.  Her passion is fostering CREATIVITY in many ways for as many people as she can. Her Pinterst account says Nikki H is a: "Delight finder. Creativity coach. Content creator. Event designer & stylist. Dancer. Traveler."

She is also a lot of fun to chat  with!  Listen in as Nikki and Lois head for the wild blue yonder in this episode.

Cat Tales and Animal Stories

"Cat Tales and Animal Stories"

That was what we called the zoom session where our friends came to reminisce about their pets -- current or former.   Lois also collected stories that were told at Jim's last birthday party (also on zoom).  A dozen people tell lots of tales about lots of tails! 

Hope you enjoy hearing about the critters as much as we did.

That's Life with Ray Maxwell

Ray Maxwell is a fascinating man.  He has done so many wonderful things, we'd need a month to even  summarize them!  In this episode we touch on a few -- hot air ballooning, finding minerals by looking at vegetation from space, how wind moves over mountain peaks and what those aerial waves and ridges can be used for, changes in vision after cataract surgery, setting up a studio, teaching people to fly (motor planes, gliders, remote control planes, and drones), Vancouver BC Canada, lots of tech, and philosophy.  Although Lois and Ray met thru Office Hours, Ray has many other years of broadcast experience -- radio, tv, podcasting, web streaming, and Youtube.  You can see his face online at: 

Maxwell's House -- "Stop by the house of polymath Ray Maxwell and see what he's investigating today. Ray is a teacher, color scientist, pilot, photographer, Photoshop wizard and raconteur who each week takes on different real-world applications of complex scientific notions."

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I love listening to your Hawaiian music choices and your comments on Hawaii when you play Hawaiian music. :-)

-- Arielle

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 1:16pm

I forgot about all this great music...thanks for reminding me.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 11/16/2009 - 10:42am

Great show! Never knew so much about green building...great guest. [Casa Verde]

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 08/24/2009 - 10:31am

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