That's Life

Lois Richter’s format for That’s Life is mostly interviews. Recurring topics include Davis activities and groups; work and life choices; philosophy and theory; plus birding, cooking, art, and other passions. Lois occasionally breaks into music — from ballads to the slack key sounds of Hawaii to golden oldies rock 'n' roll — but mostly there is just talk.

To suggest a topic for discussion or a person to interview, text Lois or leave a message in the comments here.

Lois seldom (but occasionally) updates her other website. Check it out at 

Replays Thursday 11am-12pm
Music programs are only online for two weeks after they are broadcast.

That's Life in Hawaii with Beth Post


[This 2022 show is based on a 2018 interview, re-cut and music added at the end.]

KDRT's Hawaiian expert Beth Post is today's guest. Her radio show "Na Mele O Hawaii" is one of the most popular on this station!  And the story of how it came to be and what changes it has made in her family's is fascinating.

Beth first became involved with KDRT when a  friend started the "Road Scholar" show about home-schooling and needed a back up. Beth and her daughter started helping out and eventually doing it all on their own.  After a few years, the kids got older and that show was no longer of as much interest.

Beth's daughter went on to school and Beth -- having gotten a taste of sharing on the radio -- was left on her own.  When she approached Jeff about having a new music show, his first question was: "So what kind of music do you plan to play?"

That's Dierdre and 'The Sharp End of Life'

Dierdre Wolownick, author of  "The Sharp End of Life", shares her stories and introduces us to her son, Alex Honnold, who not only taught her to climb but is also the central figure in the award-winnig movie "Free Solo".  This show will give you a feel for what modern climbing is like and help you know more about this fascinating woman.  Dierdre climbed Yosemite's El Capitan when she was over 60; and is still going strong.

The phrase "the sharp end of the rope" is used in climbing to describe when a person is climbing up ahead of their safety gear -- that is, the lead climber has to GET THERE before s/he can set in the next carabiner and hook the line into it. During that part, a fall could be more serious.  Doerdre describes a time of leaving safety and GETTING to the next safe place as the "sharp end of life" -- a place she knows firsthand and has been in many times. 

According to her, you can accomplish very large movements by making small incremental changes.  Like when she came back from walking their dog (who always goes faster than 'walk') and told her son -- in some amazement -- that she had just run a mile!  His response of "If you can go a mile, you could do a mile and a half," got her inspired to run more and go longer. Eventually she was running marathons.

Then Alex got her involved in his passion, climbing.  Dierdre now hold the record as the oldest woman to climb El Capitan! 

I hope you enjoy listening to these stories of expansion and overcoming hard times. -- Lois

That's the Library and Friends

Two guests today.  Librarian Scott Love managed several branches of the Yolo County Library system, includnig the two libraries in Davis. Rory Osborne is president of ...   Friends of the Davis Public Library. Or  the Davis Friends of the Library.  Or Friends of the Davis Library.  

Whatever it's called, this is volunteer organization turns donated books into cash -- to help support our Library and its many programs.

A timely update on the current situation with our library, info about upcoming events, and some ways YOU can help make things happen.  

That's Life with Shelley Tan


Local author Shelley Tan talks about her first book "Better Late Than Forever", about becoming an author, and how she promotes her work. 

In addition, Shelley and Lois chat about websites, finding (or making) a community focused on writing, and other thoughts.

Details about her book (and the others coming in that series) are at:

That's Life Reuse and Recycle


What's the City up to now?

Recycling guru Jennifer Gilbert works for the City's Public Works Department and specializes in making things in town less wasteful.  

Today she tells up about the new program the City has for helping people who are moving away get what they leave behind into some place other than the trash.  While this program is aimed primarily at renters, anyone in town can use it. 

We also talk about other ways to keep Davis clean and green.

Everyone can find all this info at:

That's Blue, Take Too


Would you like another COLORful show?  This is part two of the color "BLUE"!

BLUE is in the name -- of the song, of the album, or of the artist/band.  There were so many "blue" choices, that I made TWO shows this color!

This one includes Kate Wolf, the Grateful Dead, Johnny Cash, Eric Clapton, Ella Fitzgerald, Gershwin, and more.

So here it is --  "That's Blue, Take Too".

That's Blue Music


Sitting at my computer   ...    browsing the songs in my iTunes Library   ...   trying to figure out what to feature next  ...

I decided to be COLORful !!!  So this show is the color "BLUE"!

Not jazz-blue, nor blue-grass, nor being-sad-blues.  BLUE is in the name -- of the song, of the album, or of the artist/band.  And I have so many "blue" choices, that I am making TWO shows this color!   So here it is --  "Blue, part one"!

That's Staying Music


Songs of homecoming and staying, travelling and returning.  From the Civil War, the 1940s, the 1960s, and on up to modern times -- here's another selection of songs from my own collection.  Fewer jazz/blues songs in this group; and more country.  With (of course!) one by John Denver!

This is the other half of my Coming and Going pair of shows. (This time I searched for: come, stay, home, travel, arrival, etcetera.)

That's Really Gone Music

"Okay, Lois; think of a topic for the next show. ...  Or maybe a THEME? ... "

Now that many folks are thinking about coming and going, how about a show featuring music with those words?

I looked thru my personal collection and found a great many songs by searching for 'coming', 'going', and similar words .  TOO MANY songs, in fact, to fit into just one show.  So here  is "Going, Going, Gone"  --  the first of my pair of Coming and Going shows. 

Lots of different albums, singers, and styles here -- including Lena Horne, The Beatles, John Denver -- and with song dates ranging thru the Civil War, the 1940s, '60s, '70s, and even some this century!  Hope you enjoy this eclectic selection ... with love, Lois.

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I love listening to your Hawaiian music choices and your comments on Hawaii when you play Hawaiian music. :-)

-- Arielle

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 11/15/2012 - 1:16pm

I forgot about all this great music...thanks for reminding me.

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 11/16/2009 - 10:42am

Great show! Never knew so much about green building...great guest. [Casa Verde]

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Mon, 08/24/2009 - 10:31am

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